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When Scott Hahn (faculty member of the “catholic” University of Stubenville) met Vin Lewis, he said that there was “only one” person from Protestantism who would be a worthy opponent. Before Gerry Matatics (“Biblical Foundations”) entered the Church he went to the one man he felt would be skilled enough to dissuade him. In both cases this “champion” was John Gernster, professor and author. In this conversation, this “best hope” of the Protestants is pathetically overmatched against the best defender of our true Faith. The contest was centered on the issues of truth, good will, forgiveness of sin, and the cooperation of man with God.